[blml] Réf. : Re: Profit from irregularites

[David Barton]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Todd M. Zimnoch" <tzimnoch at comcast.net>
To: "Bridge Laws Mailing List" <blml at rtflb.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [blml] Réf. : Re: Profit from irregularites


> gesta at tiscali.co.uk wrote:
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Todd M. Zimnoch" <tzimnoch at comcast.net>
>>>It could be something more exotic by partnership
>>>agreement, if that were allowed.
>>
>> +=+  But what is a lawful basis for departing from the
>> meanings inscribed on the convention card?         To be
>> lawful would it not require, at the very least, a declaration
>> of method on the CC? Otherwise partner may diagnose
>> but the tools available to the partnership are apparently
>> restricted to those pre-announced.    Is that not so?
>>                                         ~ Grattan ~   +=+
>
> I think this argues in a circle.  It's not allowed because
> laws and regulations are currently written to forbid it.  It
> is not impossible to reword one, the other, or both to allow
> players the freedom of method to capitalize on their
> opponents' mistakes.
>
> I think it's unreasonable to expect that players with a
> certain level of experience would want to treat auctions
> with irregularities the same as auctions without.
>
> -Todd
>

What is required here is some degree of creative writing in
describing your agreements.
Example:-
Most doubles of suit bids are non-penalty - take out, responsive,
game try or competitive. However when logically not required
for these purposes, will be penalty.

The agreement is written this way so that for example
1S P 2S 3H
X
is a game try in Spades, whereas
1S P 2S P
P 3H P P
X
will be for penalty as not being required for take out.

Now 4H out of turn and accepted followed by double is covered
by our normal agreements as penalty, (because not logically required
for takeout since partner could decline to accept it) whereas a double
of 4H in turn remains as takeout.

Is this legal?

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