[blml] convention

[John Probst]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Landau" <ehaa at starpower.net>
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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [blml] convention


> At 02:43 PM 12/15/06, Wayne wrote:
>
>>On 16/12/06, Sven Pran <svenpran at online.no> wrote:
>> > > On Behalf Of John Probst
>> > > 4N P 5H.  4N is direct Ace ask, not Black
>> > >
>> > > Is 5H a conventional call? "...length or values...". The HA is
>> values.
>> >
>> > Yes:
>> >
>> > Convention: 1. A call that, by partnership agreement, conveys a meaning
>> > other than willingness to play in the denomination named (or in the
>> last
>> > denomination named), or high-card strength or length (three cards
>> or more)
>> > there. However, an agreement as to overall strength does not make a
>> call a
>> > convention.
>> >
>> > The 5H bid conveys a meaning other than willingness to play in Hearts.
>>
>>It shows high-card strength in hearts it is not conventional.
>>
>>It only has to be one of the possibilities to be not conventional -
>>willingness to play OR high-card strength OR length.
>
> ISTM that a call that "conveys a meaning [of] high-card strength" is
> one that means "I have high-card strength".  That is different from one
> that means "I have specifically the ace".  The definition of
> "convention" may have been written with the intent of treating
> "high-card strength or length" as applying to showing specific high
> cards or lengths as well as to merely showing "some strength" or "some
> length", as Wayne suggests, but that's far from clear from the wording.
>

That would seem to leave the interpretation open to the SO. Supposing you 
have the agreement that all bids below game once the suit is agreed show the 
Ace. It would seem to me that this would be interpreted as conventional if 
we go that route. I am open on this one and as usual we are not in consensus 
here :)    John

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