[blml] convention

[Sven Pran]

> On Behalf Of ton kooijman
> +=+       As to the case above, the key element, the primary
> message of 5H is that the suit is controlled and for me that message
> is fundamentally different from the message 'shows high card strength'.
>        Patience, we are working on it.
> 
> 
> That is not the case as presented. I agree with Grattan that showing a
> control is not the same as conveying a meaning about high card strength.
> But
> in the case as presented 5H showed the ace of hearts and not a void.
> That I consider a meaning about high card strength.
> If somebody disagrees may I know with what argument?

If the meaning of the 5H bid had been "showing strength" I do not quite
understand why the same bid should not have been made with KJ in Hearts? 

We all know that no matter how strong the Heart suit is in high card points
the only thing that matters in this case is the Ace and only the Ace.

Failing to bid 5H in this situation denies the Ace, but it certainly does
not deny strength in the Heart suit.

To me this all means that the 5H bid is indeed conventional.

A side question: I play multi 2D opening bid which of course is conventional
by all measures. The "conventional" answers to this opening bid include 2S
which is invitation to game if the opener happens to have a weak Heart hand
but it shows willingness to play in 2S if the opener has a weak spade hand.

Should this answering bid be treated as non conventional "because it shows
willingness to play in spades"? Notice that the bid may be given even with a
void in spades! (It typically shows a decent hand with good support in
Hearts).

Regards Sven