[blml] Revoke established?

[Petrus Schuster OSB]

On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:20:17 +0200, Konrad Ciborowski <cibor at poczta.fm>  
wrote:

>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Manuela Mandache" <mandache at free.fr>
>> To: "BLML" <blml at rtflb.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 6:42 AM
>> Subject: RE: [blml] Revoke established?
>>
>>
>> Selon Sven Pran <svenpran at online.no>:
>>
>> > > On Behalf Of Steve Wright
>> > > Trick nine: LHO leads a spade, dummy follows, RHO follows, declarer
>> > > discards.
>> > >
>> > > Trick ten: LHO leads a club. Dummy plays the only club left in the
>> dummy
>> > > in tempo without being instructed by declarer. RHO follows.
>> > >
>> > > Declarer pauses briefly before saying, "Oops I have got a spade. I
>> think
>> > > I have revoked on the previous trick".
>> > >
>> > > Is the revoke established?
>>
>> The issue is whether declarer corrected his revoke before his side  
>> played
>> to
>> the current trick.
>>
>> The given fact is that dummy detached a card after rho led and put it in
>> a
>> played position.  That the card must be withdrawn [L45D]   does not make
>> it
>> nonplayed,
>
>
> It does. Why on earth would L45D distinguish between a card
> "placed in the played position" and a card "played" if these
> two were identical in nature? Let's have a look:
>
>
> "If dummy PLACES IN THE PLAYED POSITION a card that declarer
> did not name, the card must be withdrawn if attention
> is drawn to it before each side has played to the next trick,
> and a defender may withdraw (without penalty)
> a card PLAYED"
>
> Emphasis mine in both cases.
>
> The card put on the table by a defender is called "played",
> while the card put on the table by dummy is called
> "placed in the played position". I believe this
> distinction is made for a reason - namely the lawmakers
> didn't regard dummy's action playing a card.
> Why else would they use such a convoluted expression
> as "placing in the played position" instead of simply
> saying "If dummy plays a card that declarer did not name...".
>
So the trick is defective if everybody just plays on?
This may lead to all sorts of problems if the singleton has won the trick  
and L67 is applied literally.
Regards,
Petrus


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