[blml] claim

[Herman De wael]

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Herman De Wael
Wilrijk, Antwerpen, Belgium
www.hdw.be

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sven Pran" <svenpran at online.no>
To: "blml" <blml at rtflb.org>
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 01:36 PM
Subject: [blml] claim

 > On Behalf Of Tim West-Meads
 > Sven wrote:
 > 
 > > As I have indicated before: 3NT+3 is outrageous, 3NT+2 can be an
 > > acceptable compromise depending on the circumstances and 3NT= is the
 > > correct result if you shall follow the laws to the letter (and
 > > intention).
 > 
 > Which is bunkum - the "correct" ruling depends on the TD establishing
 > the facts to his satisfaction.
 > 
 > For example did declarer say "Les piques viennent? J'ai DQ." or "Les
 > piques viennent. J'ai DQ".*  In the former case the lucky diamond
 > position would result in 13 tricks without any doubt (declarer has
 > indicated that he is aware of a possible non-break and a D discard would
 > be irrational in that situation).
 > 
 > If it was the latter the TD investigation may lead him to determine that
 > declarer would not notice the non-appearance of the ST (and thus award 9
 > tricks).  If not he might assume that declarer will carelessly discard a
 > D on the 2nd/3rd spade and award 12 tricks or he might be in no doubt
 > that West showing out on the S8 would alert declarer to the split and
 > that a D discard would still be irrational.
 > 
 > Any one of those rulings would be reasonable depending on the
 > facts/level of doubt.
 > 
 > *Apologies to French speakers if I have butchered my translation somehow
 > but I believe tonal interrogatives are fairly common over there.
 > 
 > Tim
 
 Tim's comment is apparently based mainly upon the uncertainty whether the
 claimer said or asked that the spades would run through.
 
 Let me remind that any doubtful points shall be resolved against the
 claimer. (Law 70A)
 
 And IMO a claim with a question is OK if the question is something like: "If
 the spades run I have the rest, if not I concede one trick."
 
 Or: "If the spades run I have the rest, if not then I play Diamonds from top
 for three or four tricks."
 
 But any question like: "Do the spades run? If not then I have to think
 again" is entirely improper.
 
 Sven
 
 
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