[blml] Amnesia

John Probst john at asimere.com
Wed Jun 14 14:50:18 CEST 2006


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim West-Meads" <twm at cix.co.uk>
To: <blml at rtflb.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:33 AM
Subject: RE: [blml] Amnesia


> Sven wrote:
>
>> But the auction wasn't over! The auction period ends when the opening
>> lead is faced

Max is entirely clear that auction and auction period are the same thing. 
The auction is *not* over until we have a faced opening lead by a defender. 
This is obvious because we still have correction of MI, roll-back and 
continuance of auction to get through before the opening lead is made. That 
this is usually null action is irrelevant. in some of my auctions opponents 
should be mandated to roll back and double me :)

>
> In the case we have been discussing the *auction* was most definitely
> over.  The *auction period* was not.  The two are different things with
> the period starting before the actually auction and continuing after the
> end of the auction.  The laws, IMO, are sometimes careless in using one
> when they have intended the other.
>
> I note that Sven has, effectively, mentally inserted the word "period"
> into Law24.  Perhaps this is right, but let us go back in time a bit.
>
> South, West and East have removed their cards, counted them and started
> to sort their hands - the auction *period* has begun for both sides
> (L17A).  North, the dealer, is running a bit behind - when he attempts
> to remove his cards one or more is exposed (assume they were boxed by
> the previous player or "sprung-loaded" into a faulty board and flip
> out).  Ok it's a result of North trying to remove the hand but it is not
> his fault.
>
> Do we use L24 because the *auction period* has begun - or do we use
> Law6D1 because the *auction* has not yet begun?
>
> L24 seems extremely harsh on player who has done nothing wrong.
>
> Tim
>
>
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