At 08:30 6/11/2006 -0800, Adam Beneschan wrote: >Hearts are "Coeur" in German? Seriously? Seriously. Except that they usually pronounce it with a rather closed "oeu" sound, like their "ö", while the French use a more open sound, not unlike the hesitating "er". The contrary is true of "carreau" : closed "o" in French, like in "close", open "o" in Dutch, like in "hop".