[blml] Pointing out who won the trick
Henri DEFRANCHI
defranchi.henri at wanadoo.fr
Thu Oct 5 22:01:44 CEST 2006
I think law 73 "communication between partners during the auction and play shall be effected only by means of the calls and plays themselves" supplant law 9....... So....
> Message du 05/10/06 02:39
> De : "Ed Reppert"
> A : "Bridge Laws Mailing List"
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> Objet : [blml] Pointing out who won the trick
>
> It is commonly accepted in my neck of the woods (Rochester, NY) that
> a defender is permitted to point out to his partner that he has
> turned his card of the just completed trick the wrong way, so long as
> he does so "right away" (whatever that means). However, I am told by
> others, mostly not in the ACBL, that it is illegal to do so. I can
> find no law which explicitly addresses this question, no law that
> authorizes it and none that expressly forbid it. I did find, howver,
> that in minute #8 of its 24 September 1998 meeting, the WBFLC said
> "The Secretary drew attention to those who argued that where an
> action was stated in the laws (or regulations) to be authorised,
> other actions if not expressly forbidden were also legitimate. The
> Committee ruled that this is not so; the Scope of the Laws states
> that the laws define correct procedure and anything not specified in
> the laws is, therefore, 'extraneous' and it may be deemed an
> infraction of law if information deriving from it is used in the
> auction or the play."
>
> It appears to me, then, that a defender should not tell his partner
> that he has turned a card the wrong way, in that doing so is
> "extraneous", and not proper procedure. However, if a player does so,
> the act is no more an infraction than is the passing of UI by other
> means, for example by hesitating. The legal infraction, if one were
> to occur, would be the use of the extraneous information by its
> recipient (the player who had his card turned wrong).
>
> Am I right so far?
>
> Assuming I am, how the Hell is anyone supposed to tell that a player
> in fact did commit that infraction?
>
> If I'm right, both the local position (it's okay to tell him) and the
> "other" positions (that it is completely illegal to tell him) are
> wrong. But if I'm right, the law in this case is IMO very difficult,
> if not impossible, to administer. Personally, I hope someone can tell
> me (and point to a legal basis) either that I and the local position
> are both wrong, and that the "other" position is right. Failing that,
> that I'm right , and there really is an easy way to deal with it.
>
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