[blml] Clubbed Queen
Sven Pran
svenpran at online.no
Tue Oct 31 22:35:01 CET 2006
> On Behalf Of Adam Beneschan
.............
> A couple of Laws that seem relevant that haven't been mentioned in
> this thread:
>
> (1) Law 47E1: "A lead out of turn may be retracted without penalty if
> the leader was mistakenly informed by an opponent that it was his turn
> to lead...".
>
> Now, isn't the *exact* case we're facing. Instead, we have a lead out
> of turn that was made because an opponent mistakenly informed him that
> a card was played from dummy and it was his turn to *play*. (This may
> be a bit of a stretch; but when declarer calls a card from dummy, even
> a card that doesn't exist, I think it's reasonable to rule that this
> tells declarer's RHO that dummy has played and thus it's now RHO's
> turn to play.)
This is stretching Law 47E1 far too far. This law concerns the situation
where a player says to one of his opponents. "It is your lead" or words to
that effect. Law 47E1 can never apply to any other play than a lead to a
trick. Thus the rest of this argument (below) falls apart.
Sven
>
> Anyway, if you accept this small stretch, then it would seem that it
> would seem odd to treat the situations so differently---someone who is
> misinformed that it's his turn to lead can take the card back without
> penalty, someone who is misinformed that it's his turn to play gets
> stuck with a MPC. Of course, in *both* cases the one who played out
> of turn should have been paying attention. But why so much moreso in
> the above case than in the lead-out-of-turn case? Is there really a
> reason to penalize one error more heavily than the other? So this
> seems like an omission from the Laws (to add to the list of
> 3,728,331,965,307,325 existing omissions, all of which I hope get
> addressed in the next edition of the Laws). But we do have a way to
> deal with such omissions, specifically with infractions that carry no
> penalty but damage the opponents ...
>
> (2) Law 84E. Using this, we could make the CQ a penalty card, but (if
> it's not waived) adjust the score afterwards if this damages
> East-West.
>
> -- Adam
>
>
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