[blml] Has declarer lead from dummy? [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

[Roger Pewick]

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Subject: Re: [blml] Has declarer lead from dummy? [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]


> John (MadDog) Probst:
>
>>This one got me to phone DWS. What do you think?
>>
>>Declarer is cashing a long suit from hand, pitching small side suit cards
>>from dummy and he holds all the remaining cards of the suit. He is
>>playing quickly. His brain beats his hand and he says "heart deuce" (a
>>card in dummy) before he plays the next winner from his hand. RHO snaps a
>>heart onto the table. Declarer says "Hang on I haven't played yet.". From
>>this it is clear that declarer knows he's in hand and knows he's about to
>>lead to this trick from hand.  These are the *facts* - don't argue with
>>them.
>>
>>Has declarer led OOT from dummy or has the trick not yet started, and
>>therefore the lead is still in his hand and we can pick up the 2 cards
>>currently in the played position with all the usual UI/AI constraints?
>
> Richard Hills:
>
> Wrong questions.  The trick has started, but declarer has inadvertently
> designated.
>
> Law 45C4(b):

It is pretty clear that a contestant that acts during his turn has the 
provisions of L45C4 'working for him'.  Can the same be said for a player 
that acts during another's turn?

regards
roger pewick

ps  as for inadvertency, Declarer intended to call that dummy's card; it 
being unwise to do so OOT.

>>>A player may, without penalty, change an inadvertent designation if he
>>>does so without pause for thought; but if an opponent has, in turn,
>>>played a card that was legal before the change in designation, that
>>>opponent may withdraw without penalty the card so played and substitute
>>>another (see Law 47E)."
>
> Richard Hills:
>
> So both dummy's heart deuce and RHO's heart currently played to this
> trick are withdrawn.  As now zero outstanding cards have been played to
> this trick, the person who won the previous trick - declarer - leads a
> card from his own hand to this trick (Law 44G).
>
> What's the problem?
>
>
> Best wishes
>
> Richard James Hills, amicus curiae