[blml] Law 25A

[John Probst]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sven Pran" <svenpran at online.no>
To: "blml" <blml at rtflb.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [blml] Law 25A


>> On Behalf Of Sinot Martin
>> > On Behalf Of Sven Pran
>> > It is a well established understanding of Law 25A that
>> > "pause" is to be measured from the moment the player
>> > discovers his mistake until he gives some indication
>> > that he had made an inadvertent mistake. He need not
>> > immediately actually name his intended call.
>> >
>> > Thus the following scenario satisfies Law 25A:
>> >
>> > A player makes some call and LHO makes his subsequent
>> > call. Then the player exhibits all signs of great
>> > surprise looking at the call he had made and for
>> > instance says "OOPS!"
>> >
>> > Now the Director is (correctly) summoned, comes to the
>> > table and asks in what way he can be of help. The player
>> > tells him that he didn't intend to make that call. The
>> > other players at the table confirm the player's
>> > indication of immediate surprise and reaction.
>> >
>> > From this evidence the director should now allow the player
>> > Law 25A correction of his call. The Director must NOT at
>> > this time look at the players cards for instance in order
>> > to evaluate the probability of the player's story!
>>
>> I think he should evaluate player's story. Otherwise, you get
>> the following horror story (true!):
>>
>> Bidding boxes. West opens 1D, South 1D -- oops -- 1H. Looks very much
>> like a mispull, doesn't it? So thought everybody else at the table.
>> Until you evaluate a little further - South had 13 HCP, five diamonds,
>> four hearts and a very quick mind. No 25A, therefore.
>
> Right. So the Director looks at South's hand and denies him the L25A
> correction. The result of this is that the other three players KNOW that
> South's hand is incompatible with 1D being an inadvertent mistake, i.e. 
> that
> South holds a hand that would normally be opened in 1D with a probable 
> rebid
> or at least support in hearts.

Why did the TD not ask "Why did you bid 1D?" I've discovered this is easily 
the best way to resolve these. It's preferable to do this away from the 
table.  john


>
> Is there any way now that this board can be played and scored normally?
>
> Absolutely not, the Director has effectively destroyed that board.
>
> Sven
>
>
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