[blml] Red systems
Laszlo Hegedus
hegelaci at cs.elte.hu
Wed Sep 27 05:56:01 CEST 2006
Alain Gottcheiner wrote:
>At 10:57 26/09/2006 +0200, Sven Pran wrote:
>
>
>>>On Behalf Of Laszlo Hegedus
>>>Can anyone tell me the category (red or blue) of the following systems?
>>>In general I'm interested the precise definition of red systems.
>>>
>>>
>>>System A
>>>More or less strong club system (1C: 17+), but
>>>1H: 11-20p 5+H or 17-20p 1444.
>>>Other opening bids and anwsers are similar to a normal strong club 5cM
>>>system.
>>>
>>>
>
>Depends on whtehter "1444" means "any 3-suiter". Then it would be
>classified yellow.
>However, you only need to state "1444 with 4 hearts" to make it a blue system.
>
>
It sounds me very strange. I think, in the 'bridge-language' the
expression '4441' is not clear: can mean short club or any 3-suiter as
well, but...
expression '1444' surely means 1 spade, 4-4-4 in the other suits;
expression '4144' surely means 1 heart, 4-4-4 in the other suits;
expression '4414' surely means 1 diamond, 4-4-4 in the other suits.
>>>System B
>>>More or less a normal strong club system (1C:16+), but
>>>1D: 11-15p 5+H
>>>1H: 11-15p 5+S
>>>1S: 11-15p similar to a normal strong club systems 1D opening bid: 1+D,
>>>(the 2D opening means something else)
>>>anwsers: 1D-2C: stayman.
>>>No more extras.
>>>
>>>
>
>Obviously red. It could be argued that it is yellow, because "1S shows
>either clubs or diamonds or NT", which is in principle disallowed, but a
>"residual opening", i.e. "anything that isn't shown by another 1-level
>opening" is tolerated.
>The fact that such a 1S opening seems unplayable is a horse of another color.
>
>
I wrote, that 1S open is similar to a normal (NOT AN ABNORMAL like
system C) strong clubs system's 1D opening bid; with club suit the
opening bid is 2C of course (1S: diamond suit or 11-14 balanced or 11-15
4414)
>>>System C
>>>More or less an abnormal strong club system :) (1C:16+ --- frequently
>>>depends on valuation of the cards) but
>>>1D: 11-15p, diamond or club suit or balanced hand including 5332 with
>>>Major.
>>>2C: 11-15p, any 4441
>>>anwsers: 1D-1H strong relay; 1D-1S weaker relay, etc relay anwsers to
>>>other opening bids as well.
>>>
>>>
>
>Non-strong relays and the 2C opening make this red.
>2C makes, however, could be considered "a brown sticker convention" with
>such a lower limit. To be checked.
>
>
>Best regards,
>
> Alain
>
>
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