[blml] Swiss Teams formats [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

[ton kooijman]

I consider this to be an interesting idea. The outcome is not surprising but
as often it needs a flexible/creative mind to come up with such an idea. And
even more complicated, it needs flexible/inventive minds to implement such
ideas. Thanks anyway.

ton 

-----Original Message-----
From: blml-bounces at amsterdamned.org [mailto:blml-bounces at amsterdamned.org]
On Behalf Of richard.hills at immi.gov.au
Sent: dinsdag 3 april 2007 0:42
To: rwilley at sloan.mit.edu
Cc: blml at rtflb.org
Subject: Re: [blml] Swiss Teams formats [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

Richard Willey:

>Girben Dirksen, Alex Ogan and I are doing some work studying different 
>formats for Swiss team type events.  Our end goal is trying to 
>determine how to make these events more "efficient".
>
>For the purpose of this discussion, we're assuming that efficient = 
>accurate.  Our only goal is to produce a system that is as accurate as 
>possible in rating the various teams that participate.

Richard Hills:

A question more relevant to Swiss Teams where there is multiple
qualification to _finals_ (as, for example, the Aussie National Open Teams,
where 16 teams qualify from a Swiss to a knockout) is accurate determination
of the _best_ teams, since accurate determination of mid-field or trailing
teams is not necessary.

For some decades now some chess tournaments have used the Accelerated Swiss
method to, in theory, more accurately determine the _best_ chess players in
a Swiss.  I am not sure if this theory is correct, since when I created a
WBF Victory Point translation of Accelerated Swiss, a computer analysis by
Wayne Burrows apparently found it inferior to a normal Swiss.

Of course, the assessment of "inferior" is dependent upon the parameters and
assumptions that Wayne used in his program, so I would be interested in a
further test of the Accelerated Swiss concept by the Willey / Dirksen / Ogan
program.


Best wishes

Richard James Hills, amicus curiae
National Training Branch, DIAC
02 6223 9052

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