[blml] Réf. : Is this a psyche²

[Alain Gottcheiner]

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De : Jeff Easterson
Date : 17/04/2007 15:45:21
A : blml at amsterdamned.org
Sujet : [blml] Is this a psyche2
 
 
 
I seem to recall that there is a specification somewhere demanding "full
disclosure".  Thus, if the 2NT bid shows a certain minimum strength
(opening count, whatever) the player alerting it (if asked) should say
so.  And, of course anything else that is system imminent.  If it
promises nothing but only asks for a further description (could be weak
or strong, which seems to me a curious way to play it) it should be so
described and then it can hardly be psyched.  
 
 
AG : there are pair whose system includes a Benji 2C, and an automatic (or
at least 99% of the cases) 2D response. In this case, answering "waiting"
and nothing else will be full description.
 
The question is : do words like "relay" and "forcing" mean anything else ? 
"relay" may, in some cases, be nothing else, ie, after a first GF ask, the
next ask doesn't tell anything, it just waits for description. Therefore,
you're not allowed to state a priori that "relay" isn't a full explanation.
 
As said before by some, "forcing" may carry implications ; two attitudes
seem illogical to me :
- legalizing what these implications are, like the EBU did, as implications
are per se subjective ;
- forgetting that the term "forcing NT" does mean more than "NT bid that's
forcing", because it's the name of a convention.
 
So, explaining a 1NT response to 1M as "forcing" means 'it is a "forcing NT"
or a close variation' ; you're always allowed to ask if need be. The
explanation is complete, if the convention is known of both sides.
It isn't the word "forcing" that is defined in detail ; it is the locution 
forcing NT".
 
In our case, since there is no convention like "forcing 2NT", the word 
forcing" shouldn't mean anything more than "forcing", ie asking for another,
descriptive, bid.
 
Best regards
 
  Alain
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