[blml] ...have we really come to this??? [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

[Brian]

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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:17 +0100 (BST)
"Tim West-Meads" <twm at cix.co.uk> wrote:

> Brian wrote:
> > 
> > But the decision we were given related solely to Ro19, Tim. There 
> > was **no mention made** as to whether it was on the basis of 1D
> > being conventional. 
> 
> So perhaps the TD was wrong.  Perhaps the event pre-dated the 87
> lawbook and a precise limitation of both natural and conventional 1D
> openers would have been legal.
> 

Ah. That's the explanation. This occurred while I was living in and
around London, so 82-88, and it was likely in the earlier part of that
period. It was one of three adverse decisions that I got from that
particular TD in a relatively short space of time, all of which *really*
got under my skin. It looks like I owe him a (very) retrospective
apology, from what you say - at least on this question.

> I can only repeat that for a TD to interpret the post 87 OB reg in the
> post 87 lawbook context (when applied to natural bids) as precluding
> judgement as to playing strength would have been illegal.
> 
> > Something along these lines...
> > TD: Then opponent's complaint is justified, you are not allowed to 
> > open 1 of a suit on a hand which contravenes Ro19. 
> 
> So at the time the prohibition did not apply to 1NT (opened at the
> other table)?  

No. The 10-12 1NT was perfectly legal. The prohibition only applied
to one of a *suit* openers. 

> I'm sorry Brian but my initial comments referred to
> the OB regs post 87 and I simply cannot remember the Yellow book at
> all (it was those regs, not the YB, to which Nigel was referring).
> 

Fair comment. I wasn't aware that the 87 lawbook was that
much of a turning point. Though I don't think there was any difference
in status between the OB and the YB, both were the EBU's regulations,
they just changed the colour scheme at some point. 


Brian. 
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