[Torsten Åstrand] 2 4H = 1 4Hx = 1 4H -1 2 3H = 1 3H +1 1 4S -1 1 3S -2 1 3S = Playing IMPS [nige1] Thank you Torsten. Not particularly conclusive but these results demonstrate that (in practice rather than theory) 9 tricks in spades is a possibility.