[blml] What does "specified" mean in Law 29C?

Peter Eidt PeterEidt at t-online.de
Mon Dec 3 08:50:05 CET 2007


From: "Jerry Fusselman" 
> [Law 29C]
> 
> If a call out of rotation is artificial, the provisions of Laws
> 30, 31 and 32 apply to the denomination(s) specified, rather
> than the denomination named.
> 
> [Jerry]
> 
> What does "specified" mean in Law 29C?
> 
> Maybe an example helps---

[Peter]
not this one

> consider this auction with no competition:
> 
> 1S (5+ spades)  -  1N (forcing)
> 2D (3+ diamonds) - 2N (11--13)
> 3H ("5341 shape or better, game forcing")
> 
> But the bid was 2H instead---insufficient.  The first question is
> whether 3H would have been artificial or not.  Who can tell for sure
> under the new laws?  Not me, but I'll assume it is, because it
> guarantees four diamonds and a singleton or void in clubs.  Also, in
> case it matters, it is game forcing.
> 
> Here is my main question:  Which denominations are in effect for laws
> 30, 31, and 32?  

[Peter]
no one, because Laws 30-32 deal with calls out of rotation and
not with insufficient bids.

> Hearts, even though hearts was named? Diamonds,
> because now we are assured there are at least four diamonds?  Clubs,
> because the call promises a singleton or void in clubs?  Spades,
> because the alert happened to include the word spades?
> 
> Currently, I think we have no way of knowing what denominations are to
> be applied to the provisions of laws 30, 31, and 32.  This uncertainty
> looks like a problem to me.






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