[blml] Turn but a stone [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

richard.hills at immi.gov.au richard.hills at immi.gov.au
Fri Feb 9 06:48:15 CET 2007


Steve Willner:

>There seems to be some confusion here.  Whether a penalty card is AI
>or UI is controlled by L50D1 (major) or L50C (minor).  L16C2 is
>irrelevant.

Law 50C (Disposition of Minor Penalty Card):

".....Offender's partner is not subject to lead penalty, but
information gained through seeing the penalty card is extraneous,
unauthorised (see Law 16A)."

Law 50D1 (Disposition of Major Penalty Card - Offender to Play):

".....(the requirement that offender must play the card is authorised
information for his partner; however, other information arising from
facing of the penalty card is unauthorised for partner)....."

Richard Hills:

Oops.  I overlooked Law 50D1.  However, it seems to me that there is
a major problem here.  Firstly this bracketed phrase is grossly
inconsistent with Law 16C2, secondly there is a gross inconsistency
between the AI / UI status of minor and major penalty cards.

Steve Willner:

>The WBFLC minute in question was supposed to explain how to
>interpret the rather confusing language of L50D1, but I don't think
>it makes things crystal clear.

[snip]

Richard Hills:

Yes and no.  The WBFLC minute purportedly clarified the status of all
penalty cards, not merely major penalty cards.

To me the above sentence in Law 50C is crystal clear.  But it seems
to me that the WBFLC minute's redefinition of the phrase "information
gained" for minor penalty cards is a muddy and unclear torturing of
the English language.

How is it possible to state that it is not "information gained" to
lead the deuce from AKQJT2 to partner's known penalty card nine?


Best wishes

Richard James Hills, amicus curiae
National Training Branch, DIAC
02 6225 6285

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