[blml] Categories of rule-breaker

Matthias Berghaus ziffbridge at t-online.de
Tue Feb 20 18:03:10 CET 2007


Nigel schrieb:
>> [Nigel]
>>
>>     
>>> 3. Are ignorant of the rules. eg As a spectator, imagine that it's
>>> OK for you to tell the director about an alleged infraction by a
>>> player that you suspect of cheating.
>>>       
>> [Tim West-Meads]
>> Why do you say this sort of thing Nigel? The laws forbid the spectator
>> to draw the attention of the players (or captains) to any irregularity.
>> The law does not forbid a player from raising concerns privately with
>> the TD. If you tell any TD in the UK (and probably elsewhere) you have
>> seen something that you are worried may have been cheating he will ask
>> you what you saw. THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM!
>>     
>
> [Nige2]
> Laws 75-76 is clear: Spectators are never allowed to broach any factual 
> or legal matter with the director. During  the round, a spectator may 
> not converse with a player. Directors, players and spectators retain 
> their roles when they encounter each other in the loo or anywhere else. 
> It seems that you may tell the director you are worried about something 
> only if it is has nothing to do with facts or laws.
>
> [TFLB L76B]
> A spectator may not call attention to any irregularity or mistake, nor 
> speak on any question of fact or law except by request of the Director.
>
>
>   

You do not remain a spectator for the rest of your life, do you? Even if 
you remain a spectator while recycling used drinks (which is not clear 
to me, but let us say so for arguments sake), there comes the time when 
the segment or the mach or the tournament ends, and without doubt you 
are no longer a spectator, a player, a director. So anyone is free to 
talk to anyone else, even if that would have violated a law while the 
tournament was in progress. And even if you did: Law 76 is about not 
giving someone an advantage or disadvantage because some kibitzer 
couldn`t keep his mouth shut, it is not about cheating. So what`s the 
problem with telling a director that you think someone cheats? Do you 
want to tell me that cheating may never be uncovered by a spectator? Be 
serious. Any TD will do whatever his SO calls for, and no comittee or 
governing body will say otherwise.
I do not care for anything that can be read into the laws if you are 
willing to bend the language far enough. I care about what the rules are 
intended for, and I maintain that this intention can be determined with 
a little bit of common sense in at least 99% of cases, and the rest can 
be seen when one applies some logic.
We all wish for clearer wording of TFLB, but we can manage quite well 
with what we have.
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