[blml] When to late

Robert Geller geller at nifty.com
Thu Jan 4 02:21:49 CET 2007


The problem is that human memory is fallible at best, especially when there
incentives for forgetting.   

A break in tempo is not an infraction, merely factual information on the
timing of the auction.   It would be desirable for Law 16 to establish as
correct procedure that one should turn to the opponents immediately
after the BIT, and ask them to confirm there was a BIT.  If they disagree, 
the director can be called, but assuming all agree then play can continue 
normally.

In many cases we can't know till much later whether the BIT provided UI
or not (a slow pass might have been a forcing pass, for example, in which
case its UI-ness is little or none in many cases).  If, after seeing all four hands
the opponents of the UIers feel there was UI and they were damaged then
they should call the director.  But it shouldn't be at that point (maybe several
minutes later) when the UI-side is first asked to confirm the UI, for the reasons
pointed out by Sven.

-Bob


Eric Landau さんは書きました:
>At 10:02 AM 1/3/07, Sven wrote:
>
>>And exactly how does ACBL expect their directors to handle cases where the
>>alleged offending side "swears to God" there was no BIT five minutes ago,
>>and had they known that the other side eventually would have claimed BIT
>>they would immediately have summoned the Director to have that question
>>clarified?
>
>The same way, one supposes, that they would have had they been called 
>five minutes earlier, and the alleged OS had sworn to God that there 
>was no BIT fifteen seconds ago.  They either believe them, or they 
>don't.  Indeed, either the alleged OS is telling the truth, or they're 
>not.  But the truth won't change during the five-minute interval, and, 
>the ACBL presumably assumes, neither will the alleged OS's story.  ISTM 
>they're probably right about that.
>
>
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