[blml] Réf. : natural bids and conventional bids

[Alain Gottcheiner]

-------Message original------- (Ed Reppert)
 
I think:
 
Some bids are natural.
Some bids are conventional.
Some bids are artificial.
Some conventional bids are also natural.
All artificial bids are conventional.
 
One could argue that all bids are conventional (that is, they are a
matter of agreement between partners) but I don't think the laws mean
to go there.
 
 
# AG  :not all bids are conventional in all partnerships. 
 
1C - p - 3NT : "I want to play there". Only conventional if guarantees some
pattern and/or strength. In some partnerships, it doesn't.
 
And remember my intervention about : p - p - 1C - p - 3NT - p - 4NT. The bid
hasn't any agreed meaning, apart perhaps, as some contributors suggested : 
I miscounted my hand". But partner was allowed to make an intelligent guess
about what happened - and duly did.
 
According to the definition, some conventional bids are indeed natural.
Control bids, if specifically showing strength, certainly are both (in my
usual partnerships, the first cue-bid by the pair shall be strength, not
shortness). Using 2 of the opened suit as the weakest response to Drury,
marking the willingness to play that contract, or using 6 of the agreed suit
as the weakest response to GSF also fits.
 
Best regards
 
  Alain
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