[blml] GK&E (was: alertability) [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

[David Barton]

Well try this one.

1C   P   1H    1S
P     2S    P      P
2N

Oppo enquire about the 2N bid.
MY GK&E tells me that it is not natural (could have bid NT earlier)
and so it shows a weakish hand with Clubs and Diamonds.
What are your obligations?

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> Some posts make me wonder if we mean different things with "overcall"?
>
> To make it clear I use the word overcall to mean a bid after an opponent's
> (opening) bid, not on any bid made by the opener's partner over the 
> opening
> bid.
>
> Literally I agree that all understandings of an auction are part of
> partnership agreements just as the word "convention" means "agreement" not
> "special agreement".
>
> However the same way as we distinguish between "conventional" and "not
> conventional" calls we may have a need to distinguish between "agreements"
> and "general knowledge".
>
> I understand Law 75C to establish the natural rule that when explaining an
> auction we do not need to include with the explanation such details as we
> should assume are obvious to the opponent. My position is that once an
> opponent however indicates the need for also such information we shall 
> have
> to give that as well. (Even the inference that a player who has shown five
> cards in one suit and four cards in each of two other suits must be void 
> in
> the last suit must be confirmed if specifically asked for!)
>
> Under no circumstance can I accept "I do not have to answer this question"
> (because it is general knowledge and/or experience) as a legitimate 
> answer.
>
> Sven
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blml-bounces at amsterdamned.org 
>> [mailto:blml-bounces at amsterdamned.org]
>> On Behalf Of richard.hills at immi.gov.au
>> Sent: 19. januar 2007 11:22
>> To: blml at rtflb.org
>> Subject: Re: [blml] GK&E (was: alertability) [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]
>>
>> Sven Pran:
>>
>> >For instance failing to mention that a simple overcall shows
>> >at least a five-card suit cannot be considered a violation
>> >of Law 75C (nor of the ACBL regulation).
>>
>> Richard Hills:
>>
>> But this is not General Knowledge and Experience.  Mike
>> Lawrence, former World Champion, wrote a well-received book on
>> overcalls advocating the advantages (in some cases) of a
>> simple overcall on a four-card suit.
>>
>> While recently I overcalled on a three-card suit (although it
>> looked like a four-card suit, being AKQ).
>>
>> So when I ask an opponent about the meaning of their partner's
>> overcall, I am indeed interested in whether or not they are
>> stodgy Pran clones who guarantee at least five cards in the
>> suit.
>>
>> Which confirms my main point in this thread; it is very rare
>> that any knowledge can be described as "general"; almost all
>> partnership agreements are "special".
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Richard James Hills, mentor
>> National Training Branch
>> (02) 6225 6285
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