[blml] Réf. : Re: Minor/Major

[Alain Gottcheiner]

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De : Sven Pran
Date : 26/01/2007 11:23:33
A : blml
Cc : 'Rebecca'
Sujet : Re: [blml] Minor/Major
 
On Behalf Of Rebecca
I’m sure minor versus major penalty cards have been discussed before, but
after a ruling yesterday (not by me) I just wanted to see what others
thought.
 
A diamond was lead, followed on table and offender then put the three of
clubs on the table.  Offender then went “Oh, I need the Director” and called
one.  Director asked what happened.  Offender said “The three of clubs and
the King of Diamonds were right next to each other and I inadvertently went
to pull the King and the three came out.”  The Director asked if the card
fell out or was placed on the table.  Offender repeated their statement
pretty much verbatim.  Director ruled that the King be played to correct the
revoke and the three of clubs be played as a major penalty card – which
meant it was lead immediately thus solving the problem.
 
The offender was most put out as they felt that it should be a minor penalty
card.
 
 
AG : Reading a player's mind can be very diffucult at times.
 
We'll all agree that you should make the C3 a mpc if pulling it was
inadvertent, and a MPC if it was deliberate (as would be the case if the DK
was hidden in the player's hand, the classical revoke case).
IMHO, how the C3 made its way to the table isn't relevant. 
A card might be voluntarily exposed without being played, e.g. a
bad-tempered player shows his partner the SA on his forehead to show him his
heart lead was wrong.
Also, a card might satisfy the conditions for "having been played" ans still
be there accidentally.
 
Here, my inclination would be to believe the player, whose immediate
reaction seems more consistent with having pulled the wrong card than with
having found the DK behind a club.
 
I think the TD read the wrong chapter : he decided to "correct the revoke",
but one has first to check whether there was a revoke. Pulling the wrong
card doesn't constitute one.
 
Best regards  
 
  Alain
 
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