[blml] Clarification... [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]
richard.hills at immi.gov.au
richard.hills at immi.gov.au
Fri Jul 20 09:32:58 CEST 2007
Steve Willner:
>The problem is that many who read these Laws come to different
>conclusions.
[snip]
>No doubt the usual problems of sloppiness and fuzzy thinking play
>their roles, too.
>
>Let's see whether we can get any agreement on the principles I
>wrote down earlier
[snip]
>but let me know if I'm wrong.)
Steve Willner (earlier):
>>It seems to me (and I think most agree) that there are only two
>>types of infractions related to psychic bidding:
>>
>>1. The so-called psych may instead be a matter of partnership
>>agreement, in which case it may be an illegal agreement under
>>the regulations in force.
>>
>>2. Agreements and/or relevant partnership experience may not
>>have been properly disclosed.
>>
>>A lot of sources -- notably the CoP -- seem to me to confuse
>>these two types of infraction.
Richard Hills:
I think Steve's "two" infractions are one oxymoronic infraction.
Grattan Endicott (2nd July 2007):
>>>+=+ I think an 'agreement' not to psyche is an oxymoron. How
>>>can anyone 'agree' not to do something that excludes agreement?
>>>(A partnership can say "it is our practice not to psyche".)
>>> ~ G ~ +=+
Richard Hills (earlier):
"Psyches should be unsafe, legal and rare."
That is, in my opinion, a player's general permission to deviate
from his side's announced understandings is limited to those cases
when their partner has no more reason to be aware of the deviation
than have their opponents.
Wayne Burrows asked:
>On what do you base that opinion?
WBF Code of Practice, page 8:
"To deem that such an implicit understanding exists it must be
determined that the partner of the player who psyches has a
heightened awareness that in the given situation the call may be
psychic."
Best wishes
Richard James Hills, amicus curiae
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