[blml] Nondisclosure [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

[Mike Amos]

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From: "Wayne Burrows" <wjburrows at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [blml] Nondisclosure [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]


> On 03/06/07, richard.hills at immi.gov.au <richard.hills at immi.gov.au> wrote:
>> Mike Amos:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> >>I would invite the pair concerned to appeal.  It
>> >>really pisses me off when I'm the CTD for an event
>> >>and the Regulations are useless.  If a suitable
>> >>Appeals Committee ruled that the system was
>> >>allowed I'd accept their advice but suggest that a
>> >>new CTD was found (in the next ten minutes :))
>>
>> Konrad Ciborowski:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> >As much as I am all for systems freedom I
>> >absolutely require full disclosure - if you don't
>> >have it on your CC you cannot play it. Period.
>>
>> Cootamundra Congress Teams
>> Sunday 24th June 2007
>> Round 1, Board 1
>>
>> North-South are Hashmat Ali and Richard Hills.
>> East-West are Wayne Burrows and Konrad Ciborowski.
>> The Director is Mike Amos.
>>
>> Imps
>> Dlr: North
>> Vul: Nil
>>
>> The bidding has gone:
>>
>> WEST      NORTH     EAST      SOUTH
>> Wayne     Richard   Konrad    Hashmat
>> ---       1H        Pass      1S
>>
>> Richard alerts Hashmat's 1S response, explaining that
>> although it is a natural call, it is also a non-forcing
>> call.  Wayne summons the Director, and complains that:
>>
>> "This method over a natural 1H has not been disclosed
>> on their card nor was any verbal pre-alert given of
>> this response.  Will you allow Konrad and me time to
>> prepare a defence to this unusual and undisclosed
>> agreement?"
>>
>> The Director, Mike Amos replies:
>>
>> "The ABF alert regulations do seem to require advance
>> pre-alert notification of system so clearly it was the
>> regulation writers' intention to demand advance
>> disclosure of this 1S response to 1H.  No one can deny
>> that this non-forcing response is 'unusual', and I would
>> expect Cootamundra country congress competitors to
>> understand their obligations."
>>
>> However.....
>>
>> The Chief Tournament Director over-rules the Director,
>> deeming that the 1S response to 1H is such a trivial
>> part of the Ali-Hills system that it would need a pre-
>> alert only in a Canberra Bridge Club supervised play
>> session.  The CTD offers Wayne a free game therein.
>>
>> :-)
>
> Where is the line you are drawing Richard?
>
> Wayne
>

I think Richard has answered his own question already - It is the Brown 
Sticker regulations that are relevant here (Incidentally for trials in 
England, it is only Brown Sticker and Hums which are not allowed at what we 
call Level 4 that need advance notification.  All conventions and methods 
that are generally licenced for other competitions are allowed without 
notice even if they are themselves Brown Sticker or even Hum

Mike
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