[blml] She sells sea shalls [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

richard.hills at immi.gov.au richard.hills at immi.gov.au
Thu Jun 7 08:46:48 CEST 2007


>From the "De Wael School and WBF LC thread" ->

Ed Reppert:

[snip]

>>Preface to (American edition) or Scope and Interpretation of (English
>>edition) the laws: When a player "should" do something ("a claim
>>should be accompanied at once by a statement..."), his failure to do
>>it is an infraction of Law, which will jeopardise his rights, but
>>which will seldom incur a procedural penalty. In contrast, when these
>>Laws say that a player "shall" do something ("No player shall take
>>any action until the Director has explained...."), a violation will
>>be penalised more often than not. The strongest word, "must" ("before
>>making a call, he must inspect the face of his cards"), indicates
>>that violation is regarded as serious. Note that "may" becomes very
>>strong in the negative: "may not" is a stronger injunction than
>>"shall not", just short of "must not".
>>
>>"Shall" is a stronger injunction than "should", and "may not" is at
>>least as strong an injunction as "shall".
>>
>>Seems to me pretty clear that explaining your agreements takes
>>precedence over avoiding giving UI.

[snip]

John Probst:

[snip]

>I am of the opinion that a rigorous parsing of the shall, shall not,
>must, must not, may, may not etc in the relevant laws leads to the
>interpretation to which most of us adhere; whereas Herman seems to
>think not. After 10 years of this amiable contretemps I have no
>intention of rejoining it, but any resolution of the deWael school
>will only be achieved through this rigorous grammatical route. I think
>it's demeaning to Herman and any poster who just tries to howl him
>down. It ain't as clear as that.
>
>Herman!  I'm hereby claiming a deWael School merit point for
>supporting you while simultaneously telling you you're a bluthering
>idiot!

Richard Hills:

Herman! I am also claiming a De Wael School merit point for stating
that Ed and John have proposed an irrelevant blwddur-ing argument.

As the Preface / Scope explains, it is an infraction to violate any
"may not" and/or "shall" and/or "should" Laws.  Rather, the varying
strengths of the injunctions merely reflect the varying likelihoods of
whether procedural penalties are merited.  So, just as one cannot be a
little bit pregnant, therefore one cannot argue that the Majority
School is a little bit illegal, compared to the De Wael School being
much more illegal.

:-)


Best wishes

Richard James Hills, amicus curiae
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