[blml] Appeal

[Wayne Burrows]

On 27/05/07, David Barton <david.j.barton at lineone.net> wrote:
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> > On May 27, 2007, at 12:21 AM, Wayne Burrows wrote:
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> >> What then do you think of a regulation that says an appeal even if it
> >> "...is successful, will not alter the result of the event."?
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> >> This is a regulation that applies to any appeal to the relevant
> >> national organization.
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> Ed wrote
> > I like to win. If I don't win because of an erroneous ruling by a TD
> > or AC, and the NA later confirms they were wrong, but says I *still*
> > don't win, I'm going to be rather annoyed.
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> > I suppose this may be considered less important for events below
> > national level, but it's still wrong.
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> > The contestant in an event (other than an individual) is either a
> > pair or a team, so I would have to consult with my partner or
> > teammates, but if I were to win through this kind of crap, I'd want
> > to give the award back.
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> > I would rather see a regulation (or a law) requiring the NA to make
> > their ruling in a timely manner - some (hopefully short) specified
> > period after they receive the appeal.
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> Well I can understand WHY such a rule exists.
> Consider a weekend event being run on a knockout basis.
> In an early round a team loses an appeal and is eliminated. Without such
> a rule what should the organisers do when the team indicates it wishes to
> appeal to the NA?
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> The show must go on.
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> Whether such a regulation SHOULD apply in other situations is then a matter
> of choice rather than legality.


Clearly there are problems with a knockout event.  However in some but
not all situations it would be possible to convene an appeal between
sessions.

Why would one choose to not alter the result if it was possible to do so.

For me the entire purpose of an appeal is to overturn the result.

Imagine finishing second in a national championship because of a dodgy
appeal committee ruling that was subsequently overturned.  Doesn't it
seem fair that you were awarded that title.  And as Ed pointed out
wouldn't you be entirely unhappy with your victory if you only beat a
lower placed pair or team because of a dodgy decision that was
subsequently overturned.

The laws provide the right of appeal.  An appeal is simply to
challenge the validity of the original ruling and overturn it if
successful.  If the result is not overturned then what is the outcome
of a successful appeal?  An apology?  Sorry you would have won the
world/national/district championships or whatever or qualified for the
next stage of an event.  Such an apology would be hollow to me.

Wayne