[blml] Confused - second lead out of turn

[Anne Jones]

AND if Jan Peter Pals is intimating that because the heart option has been 
excersised and the heart is no longer a penalty card, so declarers options 
only apply to the spade suit, I would suggest Law 60
If the offending side has a previous obligation to play a penalty card, or 
to comply with a lead or play penalty, the obligation remains at future 
turns.

I would replace the H card on the table and give declarer the options again 
from the start. In view of the presence of the spade card declarer may 
change his mind about his request to prohibit a heart lead. As the penalty 
has not been paid I also would rule 2 major penalty cards.

I understand Ken's thoughts about penalty points, and would need to think 
that N, while paying insufficient attention to the game was trying to gain 
advantage.

Anne
http://www.baa-lamb.co.uk
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Richardson" <ken.deri31 at ntlworld.com>
To: "blml" <blml at rtflb.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [blml] Confused - second lead out of turn


> Declarer has the same options again whether to accept the lead of the six 
> of
> spades. (law 54)
>
> If he chooses not to accept the lead then both cards become major penalty
> cards and offenders partner can be asked to lead one of the suits, thus
> cancelling the penalty card in that suit only. Alternatively declarer can
> prohibit the lead of one or both suits, cancelling the penalty cards in 
> all
> such suits. (law 51)
>
> The director may feel obliged to fine north. (10% or 3 imps?) (laws 90/91)
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blml-bounces at amsterdamned.org 
> [mailto:blml-bounces at amsterdamned.org]On
> Behalf Of Jan Peter Pals
> Sent: 31 May 2007 10:55
> To: blml
> Subject: [blml] Confused - second lead out of turn
>
>
> North makes his opening lead (the four of hearts) out of turn.
> The director's explains Laws 54 and 50D, and east forbids the heart
> lead.
> When south considers his opening lead, north leads out of turn for the
> second time! This time the spade six.
> What now?
>
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