[blml] Disclosure f2f

[John Probst]

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From: "Guthrie" <guthrie at ntlworld.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [blml] Disclosure f2f


> [nige1]
> It may be hard to persuade local beneficiaries from jingoist local
> legislatures but my experience coincides with Brian's: Players find it
> hard to understand current over-sophisticated, over-subjective,
> incomplete laws. Rulings seem incomprehensible, subjective and
> inequitable (dictionary sense). Chauvinistic regulation variants are
> the last straw for many would be-players.
>
> [Grattan Endicott]
> +=+ I am not sure what is intended by 'beneficiaries' in the above.
> However, tournament by tournament, I would think that what is
> most useful to players is alerting or announcement of meanings
> that are unfamiliar among the players.+=+
>
> [nige2]
> By "local beneficiaries" I meant those local players who are ...
> - familiar with the idiosyncracies of local disclosure regulations and
> - enjoying favourite methods that have been locally licensed.
>
> I understand Grattan's point: I accept that not all local players are
> familiar with the subtleties of local methods.
>
> Strangers and foreigners, however, ...
> - are likely to be *completely* unfamiliar with local methods;
> - on top of that, they struggle with unfamiliar *system cards*
> - they must also cope with unfamiliar disclosure *regulations*.
>
> As well as this information famine, foreigners have to play with
> favourite clubs removed from their bidding-bag.

Nigel, you're on bollox again. When I go to France I play mini. Frog baiting 
is a traditional English sport.. It's not a question of having clubs 
removed. It's a projectile cannon that can reach the green of a par 5. 
There's no b***dy problem playing in different areas, the locals are just as 
screwed by your methods as you are by theirs. it's what makes bridge fun. 
Screwing the Frogs over as we have for the last 800 years is a sport you'd 
try to stop. Sheesh, you're not even a friggin Englishman if you do that. 
John


>
> I concede that it depends on what you judge to be "equity".
>
> It also depends on perception. For example, Bob Geller believes that
> this results in "no big problem". Maybe so. Big or small, however,
> there seems to no need to impose such artificial handicaps.
>
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