[blml] About restoring equity

Grattan Endicott gesta at tiscali.co.uk
Thu Nov 8 11:28:18 CET 2007


Grattan Endicott
gesta at tiscali.co.uk
[also geggeg at tiscali.co.uk]
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Reppert" <ereppert at rochester.rr.com>
To: "Bridge Laws Mailing List" <blml at amsterdamned.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: [blml] About restoring equity


> 
> On Nov 7, 2007, at 6:24 AM, PeterEidt at t-online.de wrote:
> 
>> The second revoke leads to no trick penalty (Law 64 B2).
>> But here the revoke destroys the communication between
>> hand and dummy and results in damage for the non-offending
>> side. Therefore Law 64 C is applied for the scond revoke
>> (all black tricks that remain after cashing the reds, max. 7)
> 
> Hm. We are down to whether "had no irregularity occurred" 
> in the laws means literally what it says, or refers only to the 
> irregularity in immediate question (in this case, the second 
> revoke). I'm not sure, but I think the WBFLC has said the 
> former.
> 
+=+ Could you point me to the place, please, where these words 
appear? In Law 12C2 I read: "had the irregularity not occurred" 
and in 72B1 "through the irregularity". It should be added that 
64C refers to "any established revoke, including those not subject 
to penalty". Law 64B2 lists a second revoke by the same offender 
in the same suit.  
      Also note a difference of language between the CoP (dealing 
with the 1997 Laws) and the 2007 Law 12B1 - viz: 
      (CoP) "Damage exists when, in consequence of an infraction, 
an innocent side obtains a table result less favourable than would 
have been the expectation in the instant prior to the infraction."
      and
    (2007)  "Damage exists when, because of an infraction, an 
innocent side obtains a table result less favourable than would 
have been the expectation had the infraction not occurred."
      It is not obvious to me that the effect is anywhere different, 
but one finds it difficult to envisage every obscure circumstance.  
                                            ~ Grattan ~      +=+



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