[blml] Réf. : 2 hands

[Alain Gottcheiner]

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De : Karel
Date : 04/09/2007 00:25:03
A : BLM
Sujet : [blml] 2 hands
 
Hand 1   teams E/W vul, dealer south
 
North
S AQJxx
H xxx
D -
C AQxxx
 
 
South
S xxx
H Jxx
D Axxx
C KJx
 
S      W     N      E
 
P      1D    1S    dbl
2D**   P     3C    3D
3S*    P     4S    all pass
 
**  good raise to 2S's
* Bit estimated at about 20 secs
 
Result -  4S making
 
E/W claimed the pause suggested bidding on.
 
> South when asked said he was considering doubling 3D's (-1 on the
hand), decided his diamonds were too poor and that the opps most
likely had 9 rather than 8 trumps.  Even with the club support felt
the 4333 shape not worth 4S's. North said he was always bidding game
opposite a good raise and just 
bid out the shape looking for the magic fit 
 
AG : agree 100% with North : as a friend of mine says : "55 hands that fetch
a raise are quick-running beasts indeed". Perhaps South's 3S was a slight
underbid, perhaps he thought about 3S, double AND 4S, perhaps he asked
himself whether a pass would be encouraging (it would, according to
commitment theories, and would be the right call IMHO), but anyway North has
an obvious 4S bid (even 4C would have been possible). Game is reasonable
facing "wrong" minimum hands like  xxxx - Kx - Kxxx - Jxx.
 
The important part here is that bidding up to 4S is a consequence of South's
2D bid alone.
 
 
Hand 2   Teams
 
N      E     S      W
2D*   P     1H    P**
2D    P      2H   P
2NT  P     3NT   All pass
 
* benji style where 2D is stronger than 2C's showing a big hand 20+
 
** accepted the 1H bid
 
Is North allowed to bid 2D conventional at his 2nd turn ?
 
South's 1H bid was a miss bid he meant to bid 2H's relay.
 
AG : strange South didn't ask for a change of bid under L25A.
 
I don't see any rule that disallows North to act in a conventional manner.
Disallowance of conventions over incorrections applies to the NOS ; and even
so it's only "new conventions", e.g. you may une negative doubles of
insufficient bids if you use them at all.
 
NS are lucky to understand eachother in such a situation. I would have
understood 2D as natural (well, perhaps it was ; what's the hand ?)
 
Best regards
 
   Alain
 
 
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