[blml] Bidding theory (off-topic) [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

[richard.hills at immi.gov.au]

Richard Hills:

>>So Alain's assertion that it is 100% standard for
>>such a pass to be "a suggestion to go higher" may be
>>the 100% custom of his tribe, but is also 100% silly.

Alain Gottcheiner:

>I'm sorry, Sir. A FNJ creates commitment, that is, we
>have to play at least 3H in this case. Therefore, any
>call other than 3H is encouraging. Including a pass.
>See for example Robson's book.

Richard Hills:

Depends on partnership agreement.  In my partnership
agreement fit-showing jumps and fit non-jumps by a
passed hand are non-forcing, since my FSJs and FNJs
guarantee at least four cards (not KQT tripleton).

And even with a Robson-style agreement, circumstances
can alter cases.

In this particular circumstance West passed in first
seat and (after North's pass in second seat) East
passed in third seat.  When East allegedly bid a fit
non-jump of 2S, which would allegedly be forcing to
3H if East-West did indeed have the alleged agreement
that 2S could be KQT tripleton, South then bid 3D
over 2S, changing 3H from an alleged forced bid by
West to a mere free bid by East or West.

So if East's alleged 2S fit non-jump told West that
the partnership had wasted values in spades, and if
South's 3D further told West about diamond finesses
being offside, it is still 100% silly to maintain the
previous alleged agreement that two passed hands
continue to have a force to at least 3H when the new
information from South's 3D suggests that 3Hx is
likely to be penalised for -500 or more.

:-)


Best wishes

Richard James Hills, amicus curiae
Level 6 Aqua Training Suite, DIAC
02 6225 6776

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