[blml] L79B Is "subsequent" needed?

[ton]

ton:

The word 'subsequent' is there for a long time.
And the writers then (as well as the DSC now) thought it obvious that
players at the table were able to determine the number of tricks won and
lost and would always come to a conclusion themselves. 
That explains the 'subsequent' in B. Which makes 'perfect sense' to me. 

But I agree that theoretically it is possible that sides do not agree on the
number of tricks won in which case the TD could be called at once. So you
found an omission. And to make it more complicated (sorry for that) if then
the score is established it is still possible that subsequently a
disagreement arises in which case 79B should be applied. 

Is this clear or do you need examples, or should we ask Herman to add his
better view or should we call the LC asking to clarify this law or should we
ask our London lady to give her opinion? 

ton


I'm trying to understand the meaning of "subsequent" in L79B
(see below).     It looks to me like this law makes perfect sense
if the word "subsequent" is deleted.  In that case 79A applies in the vast
majority of cases when there is agreement, and in the small minority of
cases where  there is disagreement the director is called and he sorts
things out.

If anyone out there, especially a member of the DSC, thinks that the word
"subsequent" is actually needed in L79B could they
please explain this.   Thanks. 


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LAW 79 - TRICKS WON
A. Agreement on Tricks Won
1. The number of tricks won shall be agreed upon before all four hands have
been returned to the board.
2. A player must not knowingly accept either the score for a trick that his
side did not win or the concession of a trick that his opponents could not
lose.
B. Disagreement on Tricks Won
If a subsequent disagreement arises, the Director must be called, then:
1. The Director determines whether there has been a claim or concession and,
if so, applies Law 69.
2. If 1 does not apply the Director rules what score is to be recorded.
If the Director is not called before the round ends he rules in accordance
with C below or Law 87, as applicable, but there shall be no obligation to
increase a side's score.
<SNIP>
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-Bob

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Robert (Bob) Geller,     Tokyo, Japan        geller at nifty.com

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