[blml] L79B Is "subsequent" needed?

[Robert Geller]

It's clear now, thanks to your supplementary explanation.
But it would be desirable to rewrite the law to include 
clear statements regarding these matters.

-Bob  

ton writes:
>ton:
>
>The word 'subsequent' is there for a long time.
>And the writers then (as well as the DSC now) thought it obvious that
>players at the table were able to determine the number of tricks won and
>lost and would always come to a conclusion themselves. 
>That explains the 'subsequent' in B. Which makes 'perfect sense' to me. 
>
>But I agree that theoretically it is possible that sides do not agree on the
>number of tricks won in which case the TD could be called at once. So you
>found an omission. And to make it more complicated (sorry for that) if then
>the score is established it is still possible that subsequently a
>disagreement arises in which case 79B should be applied. 
>
>Is this clear or do you need examples, or should we ask Herman to add his
>better view or should we call the LC asking to clarify this law or should we
>ask our London lady to give her opinion? 
>
>ton
>
>
>I'm trying to understand the meaning of "subsequent" in L79B
>(see below).     It looks to me like this law makes perfect sense
>if the word "subsequent" is deleted.  In that case 79A applies in the vast
>majority of cases when there is agreement, and in the small minority of
>cases where  there is disagreement the director is called and he sorts
>things out.
>
>If anyone out there, especially a member of the DSC, thinks that the word
>"subsequent" is actually needed in L79B could they
>please explain this.   Thanks. 
>
>
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>LAW 79 - TRICKS WON
>A. Agreement on Tricks Won
>1. The number of tricks won shall be agreed upon before all four hands have
>been returned to the board.
>2. A player must not knowingly accept either the score for a trick that his
>side did not win or the concession of a trick that his opponents could not
>lose.
>B. Disagreement on Tricks Won
>If a subsequent disagreement arises, the Director must be called, then:
>1. The Director determines whether there has been a claim or concession and,
>if so, applies Law 69.
>2. If 1 does not apply the Director rules what score is to be recorded.
>If the Director is not called before the round ends he rules in accordance
>with C below or Law 87, as applicable, but there shall be no obligation to
>increase a side's score.
><SNIP>
>*********************************************************
>
>-Bob
>
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