[blml] Amended L27C1/27C2 question

[Wayne Burrows]

On 12/02/2008, Tony Musgrove <ardelm at optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> > >> On Behalf Of Robert Geller
> > >> A 1C open promises opening bid strength, but may show only 3 (2) cards
> > >> in clubs.   OTH a 2C overcall of 1D should show at least a good 5 card
> > >> suit,
> > >> but might be less than opening bid strength.  Thus it isn't clear to me
> > >> that
> > >> when South changes his insufficient 1C (intended as an opener) to 2C
> > >> that the 2C call "incorporating the information
> > >> contained in the insufficient bid."
> > >>
> > >> I suppose we'll have to wait for the wisdom of the WBFLC on the
> > >> meaning of "incorporate."
> > >
>
> Bob's original question gave me some cause for concern as I have had
> two cases of 1C (1C) under the new laws.  I have in both cases allowed
> a negative double although I have tried to give them the opportunity of
> bidding 2C (if it is non-conventional) if they wish. (Very hard to explain at
> the table BTW).
>  Under the old rulesI used to shoot them if they opened 2 card club suits,
>  and allow a change to 2C if they played better minor (or some such).
> Now it occurs to me that I myself would have 4 clubs to open 1C, so I
> cannot be allowed to change my insufficient bid to double which might
> promise only 3 say.  Fortunately I never make insufficient bids, just lots
> of bids which are too sufficient.
>

I don't think an insufficient 1C should be allowed to be changed to a
takeout double.

The information from the 1C means that partner knows you dont have a
strong hand with spades for example or a classic takeout double with a
stiff club.

Wayne