[blml] The new L27C2

Wayne Burrows wjburrows at gmail.com
Mon Feb 18 08:43:25 CET 2008


On 15/02/2008, Robert Geller <geller at nifty.com> wrote:
> Now I'm really confused by L27C1
>
> Let's look at L27C1 again......
> *************************************************
> C. Replaced at Lowest Level by Bid, Double or Pass
> 1. If the insufficient bid is replaced by a bid at the lowest legal
> level or double or pass that incorporates the information contained in
> the insufficient bid, the auction and play continues ....<snip>
> *************************************************
>
> OK, next let's look at the definition of incorporates.
> v.t.
> 1. to combine with something already formed
> 2. to merge into a single whole
> v.i.
> 1. to unite or compbine into a single whole.
>
> As an example, New York City (the larger entity) incorporates
> the boroughs of Manhattan, the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island
> (five smaller entities).    Or another:  the motor vehicle market
> incorporates the markets for cars, trucks, busses motorcycles,......
>
> L27C1 says the replacement bid must "incorporate the information
> contained in the IB."   This means the replacement call must be
> consistent with  ("incorporate") any possible hand consistent
> with the IB.   For example, after
> N       E       S
> 1C      (1S)    1H
> if the IB is replaced by 2H this violates L27C1 because 2H does not
> incorporate a hand with only 4 hearts.   OTH if the IB is replaced
> by NEGx this also violates L27C1, because 1H might have been
> 5+hearts with 10+ points, and this is not incorporated in the NEGx.
>

I don't think this is what incorporates means here.

A more restrictive 2H may incorporate everything in a less restrictive
1H.  It matters not that 1H is 4+ and 2H is 5+.  The information 5+ is
incorporated in the informations 4+.

Similarly the information exactly four hearts or 5+ hearts and 10+
points is all included in the information 4+ hearts and 5/6+ hcp.

There may be other reasons why we would disallow these corrections.
But the reasons you cite do not seem to be sufficient to disallow
these replacement bids.

Wayne



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