[blml] re claim. CORRECTION.

Herman De Wael hermandw at skynet.be
Tue Jan 1 13:26:32 CET 2008


Sven Pran wrote:
>> On Behalf Of Herman De Wael
> 3> Sven Pran wrote:
>>> A more interesting question is if he said for instance "three tricks to
>> each
>>> of us". In that case I would have ruled neither claim nor concession
>> until
>>> he presented a corrected statement. In the meantime I would consider his
>>> statement to be just another extraneous remark.
>>>
>> I would not. A claim has been made. The sentence is part of the claim
>> statement. I do not believe you should allow him to correct this, any
>> more than you would allow corrections to other claim statements.
>> Of course you will ask him to elaborate, all the while keeping in mind
>> that doubtful points will count against him.
>>
>> But to not consider this a claim is, IMHO, wrong.
> 
> Maybe, I don't really think it matters because particularly if this happened
> in a serious event I would request him to make his claim/concession in an
> orderly way right away. (But for instance in an ordinary weekly club event I
> might just let him play on like I do with the player who thinks loud and
> says, mainly to himself, "I don't think you will get any more tricks",
> apparently without any intention of claiming.)
> 
>> We don't know yet how many tricks he claimed, but that is no different
>> from a player just showing his cards and saying nothing. That too
>> happens, and that too we must rule upon.
> 
> Well, that _is_ a claim (and/or a concession), no question about it. 
> 

Yes Sven, but, just tell me - why?
And why does that same thing not apply to the guy who can't count?

It is a claim - no doubt about it. He said something about future tricks!

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