[blml] concession

Sven Pran svenpran at online.no
Wed Jan 2 18:09:34 CET 2008


> On Behalf Of Tim West-Meads
.................
> Explicit claims are a different matter.  The WBF minute never applied to
> explicit claims (even those where the claim was for a specific number of
> tricks THEREBY conceding the remainder).

You should know better than producing false statements like that.

Here is the text of that minute; it simply states that neither any
concession nor any claim has been made when partner to a defender making a
concession immediately objects. There is nothing in that minute to specify
that it matters whether the concession was made one way or the other. 

"It was agreed that when a concession is made by a defender of a number of
tricks, thereby claiming the complement of the remaining tricks, if the
defender's partner immediately objects to the concession, under Law 68B  no
concession has occurred and by the same token neither has any claim been
made. After the Director has been summoned play continues and Law 16 may
apply."

We are running in circles: 

Please just remember:

A concession of some of but not all the remaining tricks is also a claim
because (quote L68A) "Any statement to the effect that a contestant will win
a specific number of tricks is a claim of those tricks" 

A claim of some of but not all the remaining tricks is also a concession
because (quote L68B1): "a claim of some number of tricks is a concession of
the remainder, if any"

So a statement like: "You get one trick" is of course a concession of one
trick but simultaneously a claim of all but that single trick (L68A).

And a statement like "I get one trick" is of course a claim of one trick but
simultaneously a concession of all but that single trick (L68B1).

................

> The use of "THEREBY" absolutely *requires* causality.  *Explicit* claims
> do NOT arise from concessions. This is just basic English - not complex
> law.

Please say after me: "Because Law 68A says that any statement to the effect
that a contestant will win a specific number of tricks is a claim of those
tricks, I shall never again deny that a concession of a specific number of
tricks is a claim of the tricks not conceded, if any."

Please repeat until you understand it.

Sven




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