[blml] 40B3?

[Herman De Wael]

Eric Landau wrote:
> On Jan 17, 2008, at 4:13 AM, Herman De Wael wrote:
> 
>> Sven Pran wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>> Well, since I don't believe I am doing something unacceptable, my
>> conscience is clear. You accuse me of doing something far worse.
>>
>>> "How am I going to prove"? - There is something called Convention  
>>> cards. And
>>> don't forget that if a player cannot prove he is telling the truth on
>>> agreements, we are empowered, and in fact required to assume  
>>> incorrect
>>> explanation if in doubt.
>> The System Card, as it is now called, does not tell us whether the
>> player genuinely believed he had misbid or whether he is simply lying
>> about that. And it has become a question of intent, now. The action of
>> the genuinely confused are not at stake, only those of the DWS adept.
>> But those actions are completely the same! The SC is not going to tell
>> you anything!
> 
> Since the actions won't tell you anything, and the SC won't tell you  
> anything, you'll just have to ask the players.  Of course, if the DWS  
> follower will not willingly admit to what he was doing, you still  
> won't be able to tell the difference.  But if he doesn't believe he  
> is doing something unacceptable, and his conscience is clear, why  
> would he lie about it?  And if he wouldn't, WTP?
> 
> This whole exchange is rather disturbing.  Herman says, "I am doing  
> nothing wrong".  Sven says, "Nevertheless, if you play in my game I  
> will explicitly forbid you from doing it."  And -- while I'm sure  
> this isn't what he means to say -- Herman appears to reply with,  
> "You'll never catch me!"
> 

Not really. What I'm trying to say is that, even if I would admit to 
it being because of DWS considerations, at two other tables there will 
be two unknown players. One of them would do it because of a genuine 
belief that he had misbid, the other could be an unknown DWS adept. 
How are you going to rule against thowe two. Why should actions be 
forbidden when they are done by HDW, but allowed by all others?

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Herman DE WAEL
Antwerpen Belgium
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