[blml] L17E2 questions

[John (MadDog) Probst]

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From: "Robert Geller" <geller at nifty.com>
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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:34 PM
Subject: [blml] L17E2 questions


> Dear BLMLers,
>
> We're now trying to understand L17E2 (see below) in order to translate
> it correctly.
> ***********************************************************
> L17E2. When a call has been followed by three passes the auction does not
> end if one of those passes was out of rotation, depriving a player of
> his right to call at that turn. When this occurs the auction reverts to
> the player who missed his turn, all subsequent passes are cancelled and
> the auction proceeds normally. Law 16D applies to the cancelled calls,
> any player who has passed out of rotation being an offender.
> **********************************************************
>
> Let's consider as simple example.
> West North East South
> 1C (no call) Pass Pass
> Pass
>
> L17E2 says the three passes are cancelled and the auction everts to North.
> This part is clear.  But my (our) question is about the meaning of
> "any player who has passed out of rotation."   It is clear that East has
> passed out of rotation.  But (as defined in L17E2) are South and West
> also regarded as "players who have passed out of rotation"?  Or does
> this designation apply only to East?    Our uncertainty regarding this 
> point
> arises because South passed in rotation with respect to East, but after
> the auction had been corrupted by East's POOT.
>
> My guess is that L17E2 should be interpreted as designating only East
> as "a player who has passed out of rotation," but I'm not completely
> confident about this, and would appreciate everyone's opinions on this
> point.   Thanks.

I have always ruled that it would be East alone who has  transgressed.

Try 1H <no call> P <no call>
P P P.
4th seat has ben deprived, but 3rd seat and 1st seat have POOT. However2nd 
seat has had an opportunity to pass albeit on the 2nd round, so the auction 
reverts to 4th seat. It's the last 3 passes that count. If it then gets 
corrected to

1H <no call> P P
P
2nd seat no longer has had an opportunity to pass so he gets another go 
because his pass has been cancelled

I see no other way to apply the Law   John


>
> -Bob
>
>
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> Robert (Bob) Geller,     Tokyo, Japan        geller at nifty.com
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