[blml] 40B3
Guthrie
Guthrie at NTLworld.com
Wed Mar 12 14:47:39 CET 2008
[Stefanie Rohan]
I have no problems with agreements based on the opponents'
irregularities. But to be permitted to have agreements after our own
irregularities seems seriously misguided. I had thought that such
agreements were illegal in the past, but it may have been a matter of
EBU regulations.
Players who can change their bidding systems after they have made an
illegal bid, or eg change their carding agreements when they have a
penalty card exposed, can turn out to actually profit from their
irregularities. I feel very strongly that that should not be the case;
they should be in a position to lose out or break even.
And yes, I do think that there are players who will deliberately commit
an infraction if there is no deterrent.
[nige1]
Unless explicitly forbidden by local legislation, 40B3 seems to permit
you to agree different sets of conventions, that depend on any of the
following
- The question that you or opponents ask.
- The answer that you or opponents give.
- The option that you or opponent choose after an infraction by you or
opponents.
It is unpleasant that a normal reading of the law opens a Pandora's box
of exploits ...
Opponent opens 1C (RHO alerts). Partner doubles (you alert). RHO asks
what the double means. You explain that partner ...
- Passes without asking lacking anything to say.
- Passes after asking with a takeout double.
- Doubles without asking with 5+ clubs.
- Doubles after asking with weak notrump.
- Overcalls without asking with a normal values.
- Overcalls after asking with stronger hands ...
I agree with Stefanie, that allowing people to vary agreements that
depend on such things seems mad. It is hard to believe that the
law-makers intended to encourage this kind of thing.
I go further than Stefanie. I wish that the law did not encourage
different sets of agreements that depend on which option you choose
after an infraction by an opponent. Ordinary bidding and play provide a
sufficient intellectual challenge for most players.
A simple way of doing this would be to specify a single form of redress
with no player options.
Also, I would like a relatively unqualified version of law 16Aa:
"During the auction and play, your only legitimate communication channel
with partner is your choice of call or card (respectively). You must use
prescribed forms, without elegant variation."
[TNLB 16A1a]
1. A player may use information in the auction or play if:
(a) it derives from the legal calls and plays of the current board
(including illegal calls and plays that are accepted) and is unaffected
by unauthorized information from another source; *or*
TNLB 40B3]
The Regulating Authority may disallow prior agreement by a partnership
to vary its understandings during the auction or play following a
question asked, a response to a question, or any irregularity.
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