[blml] ACBL LC Detroit minutes [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

[John (MadDog) Probst]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hans van Staveren" <sater at xs4all.nl>
To: "'Bridge Laws Mailing List'" <blml at amsterdamned.org>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [blml] ACBL LC Detroit minutes [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]


>
> [DALB]
>
> I am not sure what progress is likely to be made here. Suppose one 
> proposed
> to address misbidding and misplaying concerns in instances where the
> confusion caused by mangling the auction and the play caused more damage 
> to
> the non-manglers than to the manglers.
>
snip
> [HvS]
>
> Good, to the heart of the matter. Luckily I am more likely to get reason 
> out
> of David than the whole of the Dutch NAC.
>
> Let us start with his last paragraph. I could not agree more. If indeed
> their partnership agreements are dodgy, and they are trying to wriggle 
> out,
> you could have them shot for all I care.
>
> However, as human beings are human beings the following could also happen:
>
> EW are a 5 year partnership. Their system is stable. 2H is weak in majors 
> or
> some strong. However, for whatever reason (tiredness, lack of attention
> because of personal problems, general absent mindedness) West opens 2H 
> with
> a Muiderberg. Now at this point in general EW are at a disadvantage. East
> will bid as if partner has at least 4 spades. West can never run from any
> high doubled spade contract because there is a good director present(and 
> he
> is also a moral player). It just so happens that EW gain some (in this 
> case
> slight) advantage, because of the lie of the cards.

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Look guys; why don't you read law 40? "Why did you bid 2H?"

1) "I psyched"
2) "I pulled the wrong bid"
3)" I was playing Muiderberg this morning with someone else"
4) "The opponents are arseholes and I decided to wind them up"
5) "We needed a swing/top"

Take your pick. So friggin what? Intent is irrelevant.

It's different if he says 6) "I do this quite often and we have a CPU", see 
"Yes" below

"Have you made this misbid in this partnership recently?"

"No" - score stands (make a report to a recorder file, or better still get 
pissed with the other TDs now and then which is how we do it in the UK.)
"Yes" - I'd better investigate further. Maybe I'll adjust; maybe I'll issue 
a PP. Maybe I'll eject him.

-*THIS IS NOT HARD!*_    John

> Hans
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