[blml] Detroit NABC+ Case 1 -- What do you bid and why?

[Alain Gottcheiner]

gesta at tiscali.co.uk a écrit :
> Grattan Endicott<gesta at tiscali.co.uk
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> From: "Alain Gottcheiner" <agot at ulb.ac.be>
> To: "Bridge Laws Mailing List" <blml at amsterdamned.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [blml] Detroit NABC+ Case 1 -- What do you bid and why?
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>> AG : I disagree strongly with this statement. Over a strong NT, 
>> playing "all two-suiters", I would pass without any sort of problem 
>> holding a (4333) 20-count, but give me a hand like : 
>>     
>             Axx - KJ10x - QJxx - AQ 
>   
>> and I could think a little about bidding my red 2-suiter.
>>
>>     
> +=+ It is my view that a player of experience and ability should 
> know beforehand what types of hands he passes, on what types 
> he bids; he should know whether in borderline cases he passes 
> or bids. I regard it as a duty to partner to think about these 
> questions and develop the decision making skill in advance of 
> situations at the table. 
Absolutely right. But that's not the point. It happened and now we must 
decide whether there was damage.

The point is : given that partner hesitated before passing (unfair to 
partner and all the rest), does it suggest :
a) a whale of a hand
b) a hand which fits some overcall but is marginal as to pattern

In case a), it suggests bidding 3C
In case b), it suggests passing, because the 2nd-round pass means he's 
got hearts (he won't miss a second occasion with eg 4243 or 3253).

The wording of L16A means that you need strong feelings about either a) 
or b) before you disallow some option. Do you ? I don't.

Those who take argument from the fact that it was a), to say it suggests 
a), are taking a dangerous route : that of assessing damage, not 
according to what the tempo meant, but according to what the player held 
in that case. There is nothing in TFLB to suggest this. It looks very 
much like the Dutch decision that Hans complained about. /Horresco 
referens./

Best regards

  Alain
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