[blml] Trains Fur [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]
Alain Gottcheiner
agot at ulb.ac.be
Thu May 29 10:50:31 CEST 2008
richard.hills at immi.gov.au a écrit :
> The Committee tried to reconstruct an auction that would have
> occurred if the players had been playing behind screens. If
> South had been Alerted by East that the 4D bid was a transfer
> preempt, he probably would have passed as he indicated in his
> testimony. West would not have been aware that her partner
> really had hearts and would have bid 5D and North would
> probably have doubled. East would have been free to bid 5H if
> he had been playing behind screens and would not have received
> any *unauthorized information* from his partner's failure to
> Alert. South would have doubled and with normal defense, East
> would have gone down four, +800 for North-South.
>
> The Committee changed the contract to 5H doubled, +800 for
> North-South.
So that the whole problem boils down to changing +800 into +800 :-P
(and that E/W escape a warning for breach of ethics by using UI ; IMOBO
the Committee is right)
> Casebook panellist Meckstroth: My personal belief is that the
> Committee should never have tried to determine what would have
> happened with a hypothetical screen. There was no screen and
> what would have happened if there was one was not relevant.
>
>
With a hypothetical screen between North and East, and a clever West
(one who doesn't want to push his opponents to slam when they didn't
even bid a suit), the final contract would have been 4D, if we believe
South when he says he'd have passed 4D.
(
If you don't believe that could happen, and West will always raise with
such a great fit, please consider the following deal :
xx
KJxxx
xx
Qxxx
xxx AQJx
Q Ax
Jxxxxx AKQxx
Axx Kx
Kxxxx
xxxxx
---
Jxx
North : 2D (weakish weak two in unspecified major)
East : pass (only dangerous if South has enough Diamonds to pass, and
that's unlikely)
South : thought he had enough diamonds to pass ;-)
NS - 350.
)
As to whether South's 4S was "wild or gambling", well, any bid when
you're preempted is a bit of a gamble, so I won't deprive him of his
score for this reason. Remark that only MI, not UI use, would be the
basis for my ruling.
Best regards
Alain
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