[blml] Trains Fur [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]
Alain Gottcheiner
agot at ulb.ac.be
Fri May 30 11:28:51 CEST 2008
Guthrie a écrit :
> New Orleans 1995 Casebook, appeal number 12
> Morning Knockout Team Bracket II
> Dlr: North J97
> Vul: North-South Q
> AK9
> AQT973
> KQ43 6
> 3 AJT87654
> QT742 653
> K64 5
> AT852
> K92
> J8
> J82
>
> WEST NORTH EAST SOUTH
> --- 1C (1) 4D 4S
> 5D 6S Pass Pass
> Pass
>
> (
>
> [Nige1]
> If BLMLers can be considered to be West's peers; and in the absence of
> system-notes like Alain's, pass of 5DX seems to be an LA. East was in
> receipt of UI from the non-alert of 4D which suggested rescuing 5DX to
> 5H. Hence, IMO, the committee should probably adjust back to 5DX-6.
> I'm surprized by Alain's support for the committee decision. He may not
> himself regard pass as an LA but surely he should be influenced in this
> regard, by the views of other roughly equivalent players, like David
> Burn. Isn't that the point of conducting polls?
>
There seems to be a misunderstanding here.
My point is that there is nothing in the report to ascertain that
enquires were duly made in order to know what 5D would have meant in the
pair's system.
It's very probable that the AC didn't even care to ask E/W what it
meant. Perhaps they didn't even realize it could be other than natural.
In such a case, the AC isn't allowed, in my view, to decide unilaterally
what it meant and penalize E/W for UI use.
Much too often, TDs and ACs brush aside claims that "5D was fit-showing
in our system" or "5D is an obvious cue-bid" as self-serving, even when
system notes are categorical about it. And that's what I'm fighting against.
There are three possible decisions about UI :
1) We found 5D could have been natural and we penalize UI use
2) We found that 5D was clearly fit-showing and we don't penalize UI use
(but we still consider MI in this case)
3) We didn't check about the meaning of 5D, and we don't care, because
MI is enough
I don't say doing 3) was right ; it'll never be ; but I insist that 1)
can't be made without due enquiry, so that in this case it couldn't be done.
Best regards
Alain
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